5 posts tagged “current events”

Rush Limbaugh, Talk Radio, and Free Speech

Oct 9, 2007
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I just saw on TV, another commercial against Rush Limbaugh over his “phony soldier” comment. I don’t listen to Rush all the time, but I do know who he was talking about when he made that comment. A boot-camp WASHOUT, who claimed he had served in Iraq, and observed all kinds of ‘atrocities’ (must be a friend of John Kerry). Obviously the left would like nothing better than to silence conservative radio. They want to bring back the unfairness doctrine which is nothing more than denying free speech.

Nobody listens to liberal radio, that is why Air America went bust. The Dem’s found out during the controversy over illegal immigration, just how much pull conservative radio had. It was conservative radio who mobilized the American people, into contacting their elected representatives and express their opinion on the matter. It was one of the times when the nation as a whole agreed on the issue. Especially after they tried to give amnesty in secret.

Those elected leaders knew that the American people wouldn’t go for an amnesty. That is the only reason they tried to ‘back door’ the issue. They forgot themselves yet again, in the fact of WHO they work FOR. That’s another reason why we need term limits for the House and Senate. Too many of us don’t pay enough attention to politics. The politicians are so beholden to lobby money, and their own ego, that they throw our opinion right out the window.

In my humble opinion, the Democrats are the worse. They seem to think that we are too stupid to control our own money, so they want to decide for us, on how much of it we get to keep. They want all kinds of big government, and in so doing, it points out clearly that they don’t have our best interest in mind. Have any of you seen how many buildings Robert Byrd (D) has his name on in his state?? Trust me, its plenty, and they are all being paid for with our tax dollars. And what about that road to no where in Alaska. It’s OUR money, not yours, so stop spending it willy nilly, I don’t care what party you claim, its still our money.

They have given so many entitlements, that the middle class is tax poor. Why should people have incentive to get out there and work, if they can sit on their butt and get money to do so?? We would do better to offer free college tuition and do away with Welfare except for the most extreme cases. At least that way, people will have incentive to do the right thing. And I bet we would save money in the long run.

There was a time in my life that I worked 3 jobs, just to make ends meet. Then my son got sick, back then there was no insurance for kids whose parents couldn’t afford it. I was a single parent, I went to the State to get help. All I wanted was a medical card so I could get my kid his asthma inhalers, I mean this was life or death in his case. He could have an attack and without those inhalers, he could die. I was told that because I worked 3 jobs, I was border line destitute, and would have been better off destitute. In other words, I made too much money to qualify for a medical card. But they said, I could quit my jobs and stay at home till he reached 5 years old, and collect all benefits. Didn’t even have to look for work. At that time, no one was required to look for work, if a kid was under 5 years old . I know what your all thinking, what did I do…

I walked out of the welfare office, and I called my job, and I told them…I’d be in the next morning. I continued to work those 3 jobs, until I got one job that paid well enough that I could afford to pay for insurance. I made payments to the pharmacy, and no matter how much I owed, they still filled my son’s prescription. I did that, because it was the right thing to do. It isn’t my neighbors job to take care of me. It was my job to take care of and raise my child with the best of my knowledge and ability. Doing otherwise would only teach him to look for the hand out, instead of getting out there and doing it for himself.

It is our job as parents to teach our children that simple fact, and we should be doing it by example. I never regretted my decision to keep working. I wasn’t even tempted to take that hand out. I had been disgusted to see some of the big strong men that came into that office while I was there, wanting to know where their ‘check’ was. They should have said, “don’t know, better ask your employer”.

My property taxes are pretty high, my state has one of the highest property tax in the nation…but Shrillary Clinton would like for them to be higher with her free health care program. Even though nations who have socialized medicine are failing their own population. It is a known fact that people from those nations will come here to get medical treatment because they have to wait so long to get treatment in their own country. Should we help kids of parents who need the help?? Yes, and we already are, but it is getting beyond making sense to me anyway, on how they think we as a nation can afford all that they want to do. Heck, we can’t even fix/pay for, SSI, but you want socialized medicine.

The left is beholden to Move On and George Soro’s, who has used his millions to buy himself a President, and so far it seems to be working. Heck Shrillary even made the comment that she helped start Move On. All the democrap’s contenders, running for President, are too afraid of pissing off Soro’s and his ilk, that they won’t even debate on Fox news. If you are that weak, how does that make you a decent candidate for President of this nation?? How can ANYBODY, vote for a President, that is afraid of Fox News?? You want to be President of the United States, while we are at war, and yet your afraid of Fox News?? Please somebody tell me how that makes ANY sense to ANYBODY. On second thought, don’t, it will just raise my blood pressure.

I am sick and tired of how the Democrats on the hill have wasted so much time, not only condemning Rush Limbaugh, but lying about it. They know darn good and well what he said and what he was referring too. None of them had a problem with the ‘Betray us’ ad. And to top it, they didn’t condemn it until they were forced to. So they can save their sanctimonious garbage for someone who is too stupid to know what they are doing and why. I for one, will listen to Rush, MORE because of their trash talk and lies, not less.

This website was brought to my attention, it is of a letter from 'Clear Channel' to Harry Reid, after Reid tried to get Rush fired (since when does the senate try and get a private citizen fired?).

the link is: http://www.politico.com/static/PPM43_071002_reidletter.html

Henry Waxman (D, United States House of Representative, 30th District) is now using US government money to investigate Conservative Talk Radio Host, Rush Limbaugh. The only reason is because of their influence on the American people. It is election season, they want to keep conservative radio hosts "off guard". How is that America?? How is that liberal?? I hear a lot of stuff about how the Republicans are doing away with civil liberties....but I am seeing more of that from the Dem's than the right. What is up with politicians in at least 2 California cities telling people that they can't smoke in their own apartment?? Liberals are good for telling the right to stay out of their ovaries, how about you stay out of my home. How about you stay out of what I may choose to listen to on my radio. How about it...

"If we can't silence him, we should at least make some money to make his life more miserable in a Democratic-controlled Washington in 2008," says a Senate Democrat leadership aide.
Others on the Democrat side are pushing ahead with other plans. Rep. Henry Waxman has asked his investigative staff to begin compiling reports on Limbaugh, and fellow radio hosts Sean Hannity and Mark Levin based on transcripts from their shows, and to call in Federal Communications Commission chairman Kevin Martin to discuss the so-called "Fairness Doctrine."
"Limbaugh isn't the only one who needs to be made uncomfortable about what he says on the radio," says a House leadership source. "We don't have as big a megaphone as these guys, but this all political, and we'll do what we can to gain the advantage. If we can take them off their game for a while, it will help our folks out there on the campaign trail."

Dan Riehl reports:

Whether you enjoy and, or appreciate talk radio shouldn't matter as regards this bit below. That our government is looking to launch investigations into private citizens not suspected or accused of any crime should. In one sense, this is precisely the type of thing the framers were most concerned with when it came to government over-reaching. In another sense, I might expect something like this from Putin's Russia, but not the United States Congress. What's next, a black list, perhaps?

So what are our liberal friends going to do about it, are you going to contact your representatives and tell them you are against this?? Are you going to tell them that they are wrong?? That this is America and we don't censure people because we don't agree with them?? This should cross party lines, this is an attack on the American way. This is an attack on free speech!!

The report avoids directly calling for a renewal of the constitutionally dubious Fairness Doctrine that mandated equal time for conservative and liberal opinions, although some Democratic lawmakers aren’t so circumspect. After five years of opposing most assertions of government power to fight terrorism, these liberals are ready to wield it to fight conservative talk radio. After maintaining that the First Amendment protects nude dancing, they are ready to argue that it doesn’t quite apply to people broadcasting conservative views over the airwaves.

Tell me, what are YOU going to do???

http://atangledweb.squarespace.com/httpatangledwebsquarespace/first-they-came-for-talk-radio-and-then-they-came-for-the-in.html

http://www.spectator.org/util/print.asp?art_id=12128

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzEyMGFlMGYwMTMyYzdmOGE4N2YwNDBmMmFhNTcyNWM=

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/10/dem_thuggery_directed_toward_t.html

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/

Politically Correct???

Oct 8, 2007
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This article was brought to my attention. I will comment on it below.

First Jell-O, now Santa
OAK LAWN School district considers banning traditions seen as offensive to Muslims
September 28, 2007
BY ANGELA CAPUTO Daily Southtown
So long, Halloween parade. Farewell, Santa’s gift shop.
The holiday traditions are facing elimination in some Oak Lawn schools this year after complaints that the activities are offensive, particularly to Muslim students.
Final decisions on which of the festivities will be axed will fall to the principals at each of Ridgeland School District 122’s five schools, Supt. Tom Smyth said.
Parents expect that the announcement is going to add to the tension that has been building since officials agreed earlier this month to change the lunch menu to exclude items containing pork to accommodate Muslim students. News that Jell-O was struck from the menu caused such a stir that officials have agreed to bring it back. Gelatin is often made with tissue or bones of pigs or other animals.
That controversy now appears to have been been dwarfed by the holiday debate, which became so acrimonious Wednesday that police were called to Columbus Manor School to intervene in a shouting match among parents.
“It’s difficult when you change the school’s culture,” said Columbus Manor Principal Sandy Robertson.
Elizabeth Zahdan, a mother of three District 122 students, says she took her concerns to the school board this month, not because she wanted to do away with the traditions, but rather to make them more inclusive. “I only wanted them modified to represent everyone,” she said.

Nixing them isn’t the response she was looking for. “Now the kids are not being educated about other people,” she said.
There’s just not time in the six-hour school day to celebrate every holiday, said Smyth, who sent the message to principals that they need to “tone down” the activities that he sees as eating too much into instructional time. “We have to think about our purpose,” Smyth said. “Are we about teaching reading, writing and math or for parties or fund-raising during the day?”
Robertson is hoping to strike compromises that will keep traditions alive and be culturally acceptable to all students — nearly half of whom are of Arab descent at Columbus Manor, she says. Fewer than a third of students district wide are of Arab descent, according to Smyth.
Following the example of Lieb Elementary School, Columbus Manor School will exchange the annual Halloween parade for a fall festival next month. The holiday gift bazaars at both schools also will remain, but they’ll likely be moved to the PTA-sponsored after-school winter festival. And Santa’s annual visit probably will be on a Saturday.

I have seen some really stupid things going on in our public schools of late, and I am getting really sick of it. For instance, doing away with kick ball, we can’t have any of our kids getting hurt now can we.

First let me say, I think that different religions should be accommodated to a certain degree. There should be options in food choice for Jewish and Muslim students. The same way that peanuts have been removed in order to keep allergic students safe. But, you can’t discriminate against other students either. If the school in question can’t provide different food choices, then students with special food requirements can bring a bag lunch.

We have seen all kinds of things REMOVED, from the public square because of the ACLU’s war on Christmas. God forbid we have a nativity scene ANYWHERE. But it’s alright to have Muslim stuff or Jewish stuff. How is that any different than Christian stuff??

In my humble opinion, it should be all inclusive or nothing. It seems we have gone with a knee-jerk reaction. We are so concerned with showing understanding to one religion that we have omitted every other religion and I don’t think its right.

We, or they, (the schools amongst others), have gone so politically correct, that it has become ridiculous. A lot of Christian parents don’t like Halloween, but never tried to change the schools decoration or celebration. Same with the Easter bunny, which has absolutely nothing to do with Easter, I have no clue where it even came from.

I can tell you this…Many Christian parents have decided to either home school or place their kids in private Christian schools. INSTEAD, of calling on every school to meet their needs in regards to their religion. Some are trying to revisit prayer in school. Many see the failure of our kids, to be directly associated with removing prayer from school. And as far as what I believe, I have to agree.

There are many other things that have been removed from school which I find beyond explanation. When I was a kid we said the pledge of allegiance everyday. We were taught many patriotic songs that we sang on a daily basis. Patriotism was a big thing. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think that is something that is being taught in our schools anymore.

What is wrong with teaching our kids to be proud of their country?? What is wrong with teaching our children the 10 Commandments?? What is wrong with teaching our children the reason for the season??

We should be sensitive to other people’s religion and needs, but not at the cost of everyone else. If we can’t include every religion, we shouldn’t be including any. It’s the basic principle of fair play.

I’m sure that there will be people who are not understanding what I am trying to say here. It has been my experience so far, that everyone reads with their own personal beliefs in mind, then they see something different than what I am saying.

This country was founded and developed under Judeo/Christian beliefs. I’m sure you have heard that plenty, especially around Christmas. If you pay attention to the news, you can plainly see that there IS a war on Christmas. Based on the fact that we were/are a Christian/Judeo nation…that should be consideration when it comes to Christmas. I for one, am really sick of ‘politically correct’.

It is things like the article above that makes people prejudiced against Islam in general. And you can see what I think of it. When you look at nations that were/are based on being founded and developed under Islam, its plain to see how they base their schools and holidays. Even though we are America and based on freedom and freedom of religion. Why do we need to change what our country was based on, when Muslim country’s don’t??

I would like to ask our Muslim Americans their opinion on this.

More Muslim Idea's on Freedom and/or Democracy

Jul 31, 2007
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In the 1940's America made a series of movies entitled, "Why We Fight", it told new soldiers and Americans, who did not understand, why we were fighting the Nazi's and Japan.

In my opinion, it is past time for them to do the same thing, NOW! I will attempt to spell it out for those who may not understand, by using the words of the people we are fighting.

The Entire Earth Must Be Subjected to Islam

"How can [he] possibly [accept humiliation and inferiority] when he knows that his nation was created to stand at the center of leadership, at the center of hegemony and rule, at the center of ability and sacrifice? How can [he] possibly [accept humiliation and inferiority] when he knows that the [divine] rule is that the entire earth MUST be subject to the religion of Allah - not to the East, not to the West - to no ideology and to NO PATH EXCEPT for the path of Allah?…"

"As long as this Muslim knows and believes in these facts, he will not - even for a single moment - stop striving to achieve it, EVEN IF IT COSTS HIM HIS SOUL... his time, his property, and his son, as it is said, 'Say [to the believers]: If your fathers and your sons and your brethren and your wives and your kinsfolk and the worth you have acquired and the trade, the dullness of which you apprehend, and the dwellings that you fancy are dearer to you than Allah and His Messenger, and striving in His cause, then wait until Allah issues His judgment. Allah guides not the disobedient people…'

Little bit of a contradiction there, who wants to lose their soul?? So what it appears he is telling Muslims is...you have to do this killing and general bad behavior, even if it causes you to go to Hell. Make sense to you?? I wonder how this guy would feel if we tried to do to them, what they want to do to us. Lets continue....

Part II: The Blow Against the U.S. Will Come from Where Least Expected

"…The [premises] on which we base ourselves as an organization, and on which we base our operations and our method of action, are practical and realistic… They are also scientific and [in accordance with] Islamic religious law, and they give us confidence and certainty… In writing them and in [publicly] revealing them, I do not intend to be apologetic for what was done; I lay [these arguments] before you so as to emphasize that we are continuing with our blows against the Americans and the Jews, and with attacking them, both people and installations [so as to stress] that what awaits the Americans will not, Allah willing, be less than what has already happened to them. America must prepare itself; it must go on maximum alert; … because, Allah willing, the blow will come from where they least expect it…"

Hey Americans...are you hearing this???

"America is the head of heresy in our modern world, and it leads an infidel democratic regime that is based upon separation of religion and state and on ruling the people by the people via legislating laws that contradict the way of Allah and permit what Allah has prohibited. This compels the other countries to act in accordance with the same laws in the same ways… and punishes any country [that rebels against these laws] by besieging it, and then by boycotting it. By so doing, [America] seeks to impose on the world a religion that is not Allah's…"

The part about us punishing other countries that don't follow our laws, is ridiculous, and not true, in case you had any doubt. Yes we want all people to be free, yes we call for sanctions on countries that brutalize their own citizens, or their neighbors. It has nothing to do with religion. But the people we fight are too blinded with hatred, to see the real world.

If you read nothing else, read the following:

We Have the Right to Kill 4 Million Americans

"We have not reached parity with them. We have the right to kill 4 million Americans - 2 million of them children - and to exile twice as many and wound and cripple hundreds of thousands. Furthermore, it is our right to fight them with chemical and biological weapons, so as to afflict them with the fatal maladies that have afflicted the Muslims because of the [Americans'] chemical and biological weapons."

(clanking on microphone) AMERICANS...ARE YOU LISTENING???

Part I: Why We Fight the U.S.

"…Perhaps the [Islamic] nation is waiting for one Al-Qa'ida man to come out and clear up the many questions that accompany any communiqué, message, or picture [concerning September 11], to know the truth, the motives, and the goals behind the conflict with the Hubal [one of the pre-Islamic Ka'ba idols - referring to the U.S.] of our generation…"

"Why is the world surprised?! Why were millions of people astounded by what happened to America on September 11? Did the world think that anything else would happen? That something less than this would happen?!"

Hey all you who think al qaeda didn't commit 9/11, did you read what this guy said??

The above was written by.... Al-Qa'ida spokesman Suleiman Abu Gheith, originally from Kuwait, recently posted a three-part article titled "In the Shadow of the Lances" on the website of the Center for Islamic Research and Studies

Alright kiddies, time to turn off the TV, put down the video game, get up and inform your neighbor, your friends, your family. Email this to those you know, who don't understand why we are fighting. Send it to your political leaders. Tell them...YELL at them to...WAKE UP, WAKE UP, WAKE UP!!! Your way of life is in danger!! Your LIFE is in danger!! Are you willing to lay down and let it happen??

Muslims, how is what these people are trying to do to us, any different than if we tried to do it to you?? Where are your voices?? You riot in the street over some stupid cartoon, and yet you remain silent over this?? Do you want to live like the Taliban??

America is the first to respond if there is a natural disaster, in your lands, such as the tsunami, earthquakes, etc. We give of our time and our money to help you when help is needed. And what do we get in return?? Silence...

Americans would NEVER, support anyone who tried to force their religion on you. For all our faults, most of our hearts are pure and giving. We have no greater desire than to live in peace, enjoy our family, play with our kids, go to church on Sunday. They same thing most people want in the world. So why are you silent?? (crickets chirping) HELLO?!?!?!?

quotes taken from: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP38802

O' MUSLIM WHO ART THOU

Jul 23, 2007
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When trying to understand the Muslim mind, it helps to look at some of their own words. The following comes form a jihadist website. It is a post about America and democracy. It is their definition of freedom, and they feel it should be worldwide.

"In Islam, however, freedom is to be able to practice your Religion as much as possible, which includes establishing the Shari’ah (sharia law) and waging Jihad for the cause of Allah.

Freedom is to be able to stand up to the tyrants and tell them, ““Verily, we are free from you and whatever you worship besides Allah.” Free from your wretched laws, methodologies, constitutions and values… free from your repugnant governments, courts, distinguishing characteristics and media…

“We have rejected you, and there has become apparent between us and you, enmity and hatred forever, until you believe in Allah ALONE.” THEREFORE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO SHOW HOSTILITY AND HATRED TOWARDS YOU FOREVER UNTIL YOU BELIEVE IN ALLAH ALONE...and freely".....

Their idea of freedom, is the TALIBAN, pure and simple and they won't rest until they achieve that goal. They make it pretty clear, they also speak in oxymoron's and contradictions and don't even realize it. These are all copy and paste, they are NOT my words, but theirs.

It is important for all of us to pay attention to the signs of the times. Far too often we busy ourselves with the mundane day to day tasks. How many "man on the street" episodes, have you seen, where the person being questioned, has no clue who the people, in the highest level of government are??

If we cannot be bothered to know who is running our country, then how do we expect to win a war of ideology??

Here is another Muslim's opinion on democracy:

All Who Believe in Democracy, The Religion of Godlessness, Are Infidels

by Abu Muhammad Al-Maqdisi, a pseudonym for Asem Al-Burqawi

"[Democracy is] denying Allah the Almighty, associating [other deities] with [Allah,] the Sovereign of heaven and earth, and is contrary to the religion of unity [i.e. Islam] and the religion of the prophets, for many reasons, among them:

"First, [democracy] is legislated by the masses or the regime of tyrants, and it is not the rule of Allah the Exalted. Allah commanded his Prophet to act according to the law that Allah sent down to him, and forbade him from following the desires of the nation or the masses and warned him that they would divert him from part of the [precepts] sent down by Allah: 'Judge between them by that which Allah has sent down, and do not follow their wishes to deviate from it' [Qur'an 5:49]. This [appears] in the religion of unity and of Islam.

"With regard to the religion of democracy and association [of other deities with Allah, i.e. polytheism], those who worship it say 'Judge between them by that which the people wish; be wary of deviating from what they want, desire, and legislate'… This is what they say, and thus it is determined that democracy is unbelief and association [of other deities with Allah] if it is implemented…

"Second, the rule of the masses or the tyrants is in accordance with the constitution, and not in accordance with the law of Allah, and thus say their constitutions and their books, which they sanctify over the Qur'an. Evidence of this is that the law [of the constitutions and books] is preferred to the law [of the Qur'an], and the law [of the constitutions and books] is higher [to them] than [the Qur'an's] laws… According to the religion of democracy, the masses do not accept the judgments and laws … unless they are based on the precepts and articles of the constitution, because they see it as the father of the laws and the holy book. In the religion of democracy, there is no consideration of the Qur'an verses or the Hadiths [prophetic tradition] of the Prophet, and laws cannot be legislated in accordance with them unless they are compatible with the precepts of their holy book, the constitution…

"Third, democracy is the vile fruit and illegitimate daughter of secularism, because secularism is a heretical school of thought that aspires to isolate religion from life or separate religion from state … and democracy is the rule of the people or the rule of the tyrants. But in any event, it is not the rule of Allah the Exalted, and it does not take the unswerving legislation of Allah into account at all unless it is first compatible with all the articles of the constitution, and then with the desires of the people, and even before that with the desires of the tyrants or the masses…

So, the people that we are fighting, desire to do away with the rule of law. They feel that giving people the right to vote and choose their leaders, who make laws to protect and benefit their constituents, is wrong. Unless it is all done, in Allah's name and in accordance to the Quran. This is why they have no problem with beheading people, or stoning them, or cutting off hands and feet.

There is no consideration for current times and beliefs. There is no consideration for what the people think. This is NOT, a isolated way of thinking. Muslims have no loyalty to the country in which they live. There are films of Muslims in downtown New York city, standing on the American flag. Yelling that they want the world to know that their only allegiance, is to Allah.

As a Christian, I try to follow Gods words, and if I HAD to choose between, that and anything else, my loyalty would be to God. But make no mistake, it is not the same way of thinking in Islam. The threat is not only to our country, the threat is towards ALL countries. Including Muslim nations that don't rule under strict sharia law. I would ask the "moderate" Muslim, if this is acceptable to them.

An Open Letter To Muslims

Jun 30, 2007
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An open letter to muslims:

Before 9-11 I didn’t know anything about islam, since then I have learned plenty. I have learned how muslims kill hundreds daily…many of them other muslims, for not believing the way the killers believe. I’ve learned that even though the koran calls Christians and Jews “people of the book”, islam wants nothing more than to convert them or kill them. I’ve learned that while Christianity is a message of love and forgiveness, islam is a message of hate, vengeance, and “awful doom”

You want people to think differently about you, maybe you should stop with all the death fatwas. Maybe you should mind your own business and let other people mind theirs. Maybe you should stop beheading people and teaching children the fine art of beheading. Maybe you should stop indoctrinating little children in hate and death. Maybe you should stop trying to get 6 year old kids to become suicide bombers.

You are under the misguided impression that the west gives two sit’s about your religion. Unlike you, the west has freedom of religion, the freedom to choose and worship without threat. Muslims can worship in the US, but Christians cannot in the majority of arab countries.

I am not calling you terrorist, but I am calling on you to condemn the terrorist actions of muslim extremest. If you cannot do that, then it leads me to think that you approve of their actions. Which is only a short step away from committing acts of violence and terror yourself, or encouraging others to do so.

I do not understand why it is so hard for muslims to speak out against violence, are they afraid for their safety, or do they condone it. Maybe you can explain it to me. And please explain why so many muslims feel the need to kill people for not believing the way they do. Why behead monks and priest’s and nun’s, are these people deserving of this treatment??

Why rape women for showing an interest in the bible? Why “honor” killings? Why do you care if someone decides to leave the muslim faith? They are called apostates and are threatened with death. Do you think that this type of behavior will make people want to apart of your religion, or respect it? I certainly have a hard time respecting anyone who believes these things. Please explain to me why I should.

Do I hated all muslims...NO. I hate the actions of extremest, I hate the silence of the so called moderates. I hate the double talk of some so called moderates that say one thing when the camera is rolling and something else when they think no one but like minds are listening. I have a problem with the fact that muslims are allowed to lie about their activity and true feelings about jihad to keep the kufar from knowing what they are doing.

I hate the "kufar" terminology, nothing like a religion that blatantly calls for slavery, discrimination and murder. As I have said, Christianity is based on love and forgiveness. Islam is based on hate, discrimination, death and "awful doom". You can cherry pick verses from the koran that say you shouldn't kill, but when you look at it in context or as a whole, the koran is all about death.

The Christian bible says nothing about killing everyone who doesn't believe, the bible says of enemies:" Bless them that curse you, pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smacks you on the one cheek, offer him the other, and him that takes away your cloak, give him your coat also. It says to love your enemy and pray for them. And when asked of the Lord how often to forgive those that offend you, He said until seventy times seven." The koran and the bible are polar opposites.

As I said I didn't know anything about islam before 9-11, I know a lot now. And if I was in a situation where so many others have been in, of convert to islam or die....your gonna have to kill me, cause it ain't happening. I will never understand why anyone would want to be in a religion that is so hateful. And as far as muslims condemning the acts of terrorist, I'm sorry but I don't see enough of it, to think that they really do.

Here is a little eye opener:

http://moderatesrefuted.wordpress.com/